lbpesq wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 12:15 pm i’ve read both that Alligator was a ‘56 and a ‘57. The recent Bonham’s auction material cited a serial number of 7310, which would be a ‘55. Never heard it was a ‘54. Where did you read that?Perhaps I heard it was a ‘55 which is why it would have the 54 pups. I actually heard this from a guy who was building an Alligator and I had assumed it was a ‘57, I asked if he was usin 57’ pups and he told me that when someone from Alembic took the guitar apart they dated it to 54-55 (I can’t remember). It was discovered that the guitar had pups with alnico 3 magnets, etc, which dates the guitar to that timeframe. Sorry I don’t have a clear memory on the exact year, etc.
lbpesq wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 5:45 pm I’ve read that Fender used Alnico 3s in ‘54, but switched to Alnico 5s in ‘55. I’ve also read that Fender ordered magnets in specific sizes, but didn't specify the type of magnet. To make things even murkier, I’ve additionally read that the formulation of Alnico magnets in the 1950s is different than today’s formulation due to modern extraction methods. When I built my Alligator, I wound the pickups using Alnico 5 magnets with 1950s stagger and vintage bevels and 42 gauge Heavy Formvar wire.I hear you Bill, I guess one of us could reach out to Alembic and see what they have to say. Supposedly they took a close look at the guitar post auction.
I have no idea how to differentiate different Alnico magnets by looking at them. I’m not even sure it’s possible. My Gauss meter doesn’t differentiate between them.
Gr8fulCadi wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 2:12 pmAnyone looking for Fender CS69’s pickups with only a few hours of use, hit me up!I would if I needed a set of Strat PUPs because those are, in my view, superb pickups. Someone else will surely snatch 'em up.
wpmartin1979 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 1:33 pmFWIW, the research I’ve done since this thread started suggests that Fender used Alnico 3 magnets on early ‘54 Strats, but had switched to Alnico 5 by 1955. That would seem to indicate Alligator had Alnico 5 pickups, assuming they were original. But, having worked with Alnico 2,3,4,and 5 pole magnets, I can’t fathom how you can tell the difference looking at a completed pickup unless you have some serious scientific testing equipment, if such equipment even exists.