#166508  by healthy_scratch
 Tue Nov 26, 2019 2:31 am
Wow, thank you, everybody, for the invaluable feedback, which is really helpful as I am about to launch into to tweaking the chain. I did not know about the Volume pedal at the end to be used as to act essentially as an OBEL. I have an Ernie Ball Volume Pedal sitting gathering dust so I will slap it on to the end of the chain running directly into the amp. Also, I will try to move the Keely Dynatrem (Tremolo/Reverb) pedal after the Delay and right before the Volume Pedal to see how it sounds. For now, as I never use the Pitchfork (Octave) with the Proton Envelope filter and the Pitchfork seems to trigger and track well where it is, I will keep it put in the chain before the drive pedals and after compression.

The other thing I want to try is to use the MXR EQ to try to come up with a bit of a boost on the Proton. Even though it is at the front of the chain I find there are times that it lacks balls when soloing and you are bringing up the intensity level or just a mild boost to cut through the mix. Not sure if anyone has tried this. What happens if I jack up my main amp Volume then everything else on the chain is too loud even though I usually play at 7 - 8 with Guitar volume on the Strat but pretty well always play with Envelope at full volume. I tried the clean boost with Proton ENvelope Filter but it tends to distort. As the MXR 6 Band EQ just was put on the board last week I am going to try using this to step on to see if I can get a boost of the pure Envelope tone without distorting it but so far it has been mixed results though have not spent a lot of woodshed time to fine-tune yet. Not sure if anyone has had a similar experience here with using EQ with an Envelope filter to achieve a relatively clean boost of the Envelope effect without distorting it.

Thank you one and all once again for your welcome and helpful comments.

- HS
 #166510  by sugarinthegourd
 Tue Nov 26, 2019 7:18 am
With the volume pedal at the end of the chain you may need to think about whether you will have buffers or other pedals with low-Z output before it, and if so you may need a 25k volume pedal rather than the more common 250k that you most likely have...but try and it and see how it works.
 #166514  by lbpesq
 Tue Nov 26, 2019 10:08 am
Don’t forget that if you want to use a volume pedal at the end of the chain to accomplish the same result as an OBEL, you will need to keep your guitar’s volume at “10” at all times.*

Bill, tgo

* Of course if you are covering “Big Bottom” or “Stonehenge” you should turn your guitar to 11.