#52058  by trking8
 Mon Oct 27, 2008 8:35 pm
no - - you're right. I made an error in the transcription for the second double note. it should be:

|------------------------------------------------
B|5s--7--7--8---5s--7--7--5--5s--7--7--5--7--5--3-
G|----------5------------------------------------
D|5s--7--7------5s--7--7--5--5s--7--7--5--7--5--4-
A|------------------------------------------------
E|------------------------------------------------

right? thanks,

t

 #52067  by krzykat
 Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:07 am
Some of the simpler stuff is great for those of us that haven't been playing that long thanx.

Love the tab embedded in the vid!

 #52070  by Billbbill
 Tue Oct 28, 2008 6:16 am
krzykat wrote: Love the tab embedded in the vid!
This was a very cool idea on the part of Terry. I just added it to my Jack Straw JG & Bob intro's vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJCWcQZh0FE



Gotta check out what else I can do.

 #52083  by trking8
 Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:31 am
most excellent, bud - - looks like we're gaining momentum.

any idea on how to insert a chord diagram (other than tab) into a vid?

youtube lets you insert text (e.g., tabs) by using their "annotation" editing feature, which works pretty well.

any ideas on how to insert/superimpose a pic (gif, jpg) of a chord form into the vid?

my vid editing program (moviemaker) permits pics before each section of a vid, but I haven't found a good way to superimpose it over the instruction itself.

let's keep this wheel turning...

thanks,

t

 #52084  by trking8
 Tue Oct 28, 2008 8:34 am
krzykat wrote:Some of the simpler stuff is great for those of us that haven't been playing that long thanx.
yeah, I'm still struggling with what skill level to work on.

that's why the last vid ("Playing in the band") has a preview of the 4 sections in the intro.

if the first stuff is too basic, there's an incentive to fast forward to something more challenging.

what say?

thanks,

t

 #52113  by hotasaPistol
 Tue Oct 28, 2008 5:37 pm
I am really appreciative of your time and effort and for considering the different levels.
I like the fact that the less challenging stuff gives someone like me a place to begin on things I never thought I would be able to learn and that the more challenging ideas show me where I can go.

for me playing guitar is a lot like cooking
Sometimes you need to make mistakes to learn what not to do.
thanks a lot
very very helpful for me

Peace,
Pistol 8)
 #52116  by jonarobb
 Tue Oct 28, 2008 10:14 pm
trking8 wrote:playing in the band riffs, chords:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVTTUCyIdAo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVTTUCyIdAo[/youtube]

peace out,

terry

p.s. tab to follow

Very cool stuff Terry...

Questions and concerns, and suggestions...

It might be helpful to specify a version of the tune you're working from, year, etc...

As well as what part of the song.

With the Playin' in the Band stuff I notice you've only showed Weirs line and part of it is incorrect insomuch as it can be. That riff happens not only after the verses, but also coming out of jam in a slightly altered minor key before they resolve to the major key riff which then blasts into the bridge section in A. I'm talking about the classic stand alone versions from 72-74.

The following are the riffs that Jerry and Bobby do after verse 1 & 3, as well as the section that closes the jam and drops into the bridge....

Here's Jer's line:

E|-----------------------------------------
B|--5h7--7--8--5h7--7--5--5h7--7--5--7-----
G|--------------------------------------7--
D|-----------------------------------------
A|-----------------------------------------
E|-----------------------------------------

E|-----------------------------------------
B|--5h7--7--8--5h7--7--5--5h7--7--5--7-----
G|--------------------------------------7--
D|-----------------------------------------
A|-----------------------------------------
E|-----------------------------------------

E|-----------------------------------------
B|--5h7--7--8--5h7--7--5--5h7--7--5--7-----
G|--------------------------------------7--
D|-----------------------------------------
A|-----------------------------------------
E|-----------------------------------------

E|-----------------------------------------
B|--5h7--7--8--5h7--7--5--5h7--7--5--7-----
G|--------------------------------------7--
D|-----------------------------------------
A|-----------------------------------------
E|-----------------------------------------





Here's Weir's line:

E|------------------------------------------
B|------------------------------------------
G|----------5-------------------------------
D|--5h7--7------5h7--7--5--5h7--7--5--7-----
A|---------------------------------------5--
E|------------------------------------------

E|------------------------------------------
B|------------------------------------------
G|----------5-------------------------------
D|--5h7--7------5h7--7--5--5h7--7--5--7-----
A|---------------------------------------5--
E|------------------------------------------



E|----------------------5----------5------------------
B|----------5-----------5----------5b(6)r5---3---3----
G|----------5----------------------------------5------
D|--5h7--7------5h7--7-----5h7--7-------------------0-
A|----------------------------------------------------
E|----------------------------------------------------


E|----------------------5----------5------------------
B|----------5-----------5----------5b(6)r5---3---3----
G|----------5----------------------------------5------
D|--5h7--7------5h7--7-----5h7--7-------------------0-
A|----------------------------------------------------
E|----------------------------------------------------

Please excuse my attempt at tab but on pass 3 & 4 you'll notice Weir executes a beautiful double stop slur before they jump into the second verse, or the jam. I've never seen this tabbed out but I know it's there. I haven't seen a Dead cover band do it correctly, including DSO, but one cat that does do it and he nails it is the Rhythm guitarist for the Zen Tricksters.

You'll also notice there is no F# resolve as in your version of the riff. Weir & Garcia both play D. That F# only happens briefly in the riffs exiting the jam section as they shift from minor to major.

I believe the above to be correct, at least for the riffs seperating the verses.

This is taken from Dicks Picks Vol 31, Disc 1
. And if you have it you'll here the minor>major shift around the 22:00 mark. FWIW I only hear Weir play that F# once right before they do the last 4 riffs....
Last edited by jonarobb on Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:32 am, edited 2 times in total.

 #52117  by Billbbill
 Wed Oct 29, 2008 4:08 am
Thanks for clearing some of that up jonarobb - I should have been more clear that I was only talking about the jam part (actually fogot about the part within the body of the song! :shock: ) And it's interesting to hear that in the jam portion jg snipes bobby's lick before the 'turnaround'. I know you're actually talking to terry but I'm uppin my 2 cent to 4. ;)

I listened to a few versions and didn't get a good grasp on what bob was doing (freelancing?) during that first half before the turnaround.

Often the jam simply went to another tune and they either never came back, or came back as "Playing Reprise" later in the show.

Interesting that while bob's lick is snatched by jg and used while still in the minor mode for the 1st half of the turn around, that it's used by bob during the verse opposite jg's decidedly 'major' lick that does voice the F#. I suppose it's can be termed 'non-committal' as far as major/minor is concerned as it voices neither the F or the F#.

 #52136  by Pete B.
 Wed Oct 29, 2008 9:57 am
Yes, another classic study in CAGED theory!
The main licks in this tune can be found at all 5 chord shape positions.
These tabs are a great jumping off point.
Thanks for those Bobby lines, I will add them in effective immediately.

Just for fun... If you think of the lick below, play it entirely out of the D7 chord position in brackets, and get the notes with as little finger motion as possible (stay in the chord form).
The first move is just a half step pinky raise (and pick the right strings/frets).
The second step simply lifts pinky and ring fingers.
The third step just lifts the pinky/ring up and down.
For the last notes, change the chord shape from D7 to D (barre across strings 2,3,4 with the ring finger).


E|[5]------------------------------------------[x]-
B|[7]---7--7--8------7--7--5-----7--7--5--7----[7]-
G|[5]---------5------------------------------7-[7]-
D|[7]---7--7---------7--7--5-----7--7--5--7----[7]-
A|[5]----------------------------------------5-[5]-
E|[x]------------------------------------------[x]-

Funn Stuff!
~pb
 #53051  by ronster
 Wed Nov 26, 2008 8:11 am
Great stuff. Would have been a better if it was in the same key as the Dead but no problem in moving everything down a half step. Also, in your high strum section the C to A# to F chord change which really makes that flying chord jam fly the A# chord appears to be absent. Appreciate all of your effort and enjoy your Thanksgiving.