JackORoses wrote:
moe.
shit I even enjoy Dave Matthews Band
i'd keep away from
Disco Biscuits
Umphrey's Mcgee
personally I think these bands have just hijacked jam audiences and care nothign about there fans or the environment the dead helped build and there music has nothing to do with the tradition of the the grateful dead
moe and dmb = laughable
dude are you kidding about umphreys and bisco? they love their fans. im guess ing you dont know shit aboutthem because they play harder or more electronic. i have not seen higher music levels reached since phish. for umphs at least. bisco can get a bit boring.
thats fucking ignorant, who cares if their music isnt like the deads? there ARE other styles beside hippy jambands(most of which are boring as shit READ moe and dmb)
dont talk about shit you have no idea about
these bands lack talent they think that by throwing a whole bunch of uneccesary notes and werid electronic sounds they can make good music, true talent is takeing a few chords and a killer melody and making amazing music. These bands are nothing but electornica and prog rock bullshit
why are the notes uneccesary? whats wrong with electronic sounds?
sometimes you need alot of notes, sometimes you dont.
electronic sounds can be awesome.
whats unecessary is al schnier soloing the same solo for 20 fucking minutes 5 times per show, then doing it AGAIN every other show.
"true talent" is whatever you find it to be. who are you to define talent asshole? i find umphreys and bisco extremley talented. bisco has the smoothest transitions of pretty much any band, just great segues. umphreys is heavily influenced by prog, they do write amazing melodies and harmonized guitar lines and overall their compostions are mindblowing. yeah theyre complex, but so what? its alot easier to throw together a song with a few chords and a simple melody, and usually that stuff is SO FUCKING GENERIC. the dead could do it tho. umphs took the time to learn how to play EVERYTHING and not be selective of the styles, their music truly is original, songwriting included. hell nobody writes as original music as umphreys now days. i could recognize a bayliss or jake song at the drop of a pin.
but to you they play complex and fast sometimes, so they must be bad. thats stupid.
actually LISTEN and dont just shit on them.
this is my one beef with a lot of heads and blues players, is that they dont take the time to do anything new. its like they never leave the little dead/blues/bluegrass circle.
i kinda think some are lazy and just stop learning about their instruments. i know its not about the instrument, but when you know everything about it and become very taleneted at it, you can be MUCH more expressive in your music. hate to break it to ya blues guys but the pentatonic shit got boring over 40 years ago.
umphreys and bisco are doing new shit (well at least umphreys keeps doing new shit). the DEAD did that same thing. they open new musical worlds. but since they dont play in the dead realm of music you say theyre bad.
and i must inquire, why is electronica and prog bullshit?
(actually ill agree that a lot of electronica kind of is bullshit, because anybody could program shit on their computer and a lot is repetitive and similar sounding, but some of it sounds awesome anyway)
list of umphreys goodness
-songwriting
-unboring jamming
-best guitar duo since duane and dickey(seriously bayliss and jaco fit perfectly witheach other)
-kris myers is possibly the most riddiculous drummer of all time, the only other drummer i could recognize by their playing would be kreutzmann
-very diverse
-they actaully KEEP GETTING BETTER and they change, not just shit around in one little hole of music