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 #157400  by johngtr67
 Tue Jul 11, 2017 6:40 pm
SMS Classic Tube Preamp JG model
Carvin DCM200L power amp
(2 rack spaces total- use a tote)!
Single JBL K-120 or heavier -JBL E-120 in a
Single 12"cabinet

Read the Jerry tone forums!
 #157402  by Searing75
 Tue Jul 11, 2017 8:12 pm
[quote="johngtr67"]SMS Classic Tube Preamp JG model
Carvin DCM200L power amp
(2 rack spaces total- use a tote)!
Single JBL K-120 or heavier -JBL E-120 in a
Single 12"cabinet

This!
 #157404  by Jon S.
 Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:52 am
johngtr67 wrote:SMS Classic Tube Preamp JG model
Carvin DCM200L power amp
(2 rack spaces total- use a tote)!
Single JBL K-120 or heavier -JBL E-120 in a
Single 12"cabinet

Read the Jerry tone forums!
Precisely what I own as one of my rigs w/a Gator 2U short rack.
 #157428  by franklins_timmy
 Thu Jul 13, 2017 9:48 am
Fender Blues Jr, will get you real nice Jerry tone. Swap out the speaker and it will get a bit closer. Won't nail the tone like what the others have suggested will, but it will be in the ballpark. Plus it will be a little easier on the wallet if that's an issue.
 #157429  by Ethanlovesjazz
 Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:36 am
franklins_timmy wrote:Fender Blues Jr, will get you real nice Jerry tone. Swap out the speaker and it will get a bit closer. Won't nail the tone like what the others have suggested will, but it will be in the ballpark. Plus it will be a little easier on the wallet if that's an issue.

What speaker do you suggest??
 #157433  by franklins_timmy
 Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:48 am
Try it with the stock you may like it, it does a pretty decent job. If you don't like it/want to get closer, the JBL K-120 the others have suggested would be great. I like the Weber California quite a bit. I have been wanting to try the Tone Tubby Winterland which is a ceramic version of a speaker recommended by a member on here with a lot of knowledge, so that could be an option.
 #157437  by PurpleTrails
 Thu Jul 13, 2017 12:20 pm
If you do go the blues Jr. route I would suggest you listen to the tweed version that is out now before you buy. IMHO it sounds substantially better than the normal black one, for not a whole lot more money. However, I do think that going SMS/carvin/112 cab with a JBL is going to get you much closer.
 #157442  by waldo041
 Thu Jul 13, 2017 7:13 pm
franklins_timmy wrote:Fender Blues Jr, will get you real nice Jerry tone. Swap out the speaker and it will get a bit closer. Won't nail the tone like what the others have suggested will, but it will be in the ballpark. Plus it will be a little easier on the wallet if that's an issue.
All mentioned thus far will not nail his tone, but will get you in the ballpark. The lightest amp that NAILS the tone and feel is a properly modified Fender Twin Reverb, one JBL or 2(k or E).



~waldo
 #157449  by Searing75
 Fri Jul 14, 2017 9:30 am
A Fender Twin isn't a lightweight option! My Twin is properly modified, biased, and when run into a single K120, or two K120's, doesn't sound as good, or more Jerry post 1973, to my ears as the SMS/Carvin does. We don't need to open the can of worms that often comes along with this discussion. If it's lightweight you seek, go with proven lightweights rigs.
 #157451  by waldo041
 Fri Jul 14, 2017 11:00 am
Searing75 wrote:A Fender Twin isn't a lightweight option! My Twin is properly modified, biased, and when run into a single K120, or two K120's, doesn't sound as good, or more Jerry post 1973, to my ears as the SMS/Carvin does. We don't need to open the can of worms that often comes along with this discussion. If it's lightweight you seek, go with proven lightweights rigs.
I have used and modified the SMS, FYD, H&K Blues Master. I also own an SMS Classic. Also a couple of those builders even thanked me for the help i provided with their product which i receive zero profit for. That said, NONE of them compare to a PROPERLY modified twin in NAILING Jerry's tone and feel. They are in the ballpark for sure and very relevant rigs no doubt. If you are after a lightweight ballpark rig, go with what has been stated here. But if you want to nail his tone the lightest rig IS what i have stated. you could add a Mcintosh and speaker cab with JBL's and make the rig much heavier and i do recommend the heavier version but when the Twin is right it is all you need. Again, I do recommend the heavier option, it is what i used to dial in the Twin. Dialing in the power section in-conjunction with the preamp and reverb sections is a bonus. No can of worms to open, this is the truth. I will also state that there is not a damn thing wrong to be in the ballpark or prefer a lightweight rig. But if your Twin is Not nailing it, then it is not properly modified. And like all the other builders products i mentioned, My work to a twin is not free and comes at a cost. Giving things away free bit me in the ass.

~waldo