rukind.com

Grateful Dead Music Forum

A place to talk about the music of the Grateful Dead 

 #160242  by Mithrandir
 Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:10 am
78 is one of my favorite years. Call me a a nihilist or whatever, but 78 had some energy of 77 with some darker undertones. In addition, its my favorite Jerry tone year. I was listening to Dick's Pick's 25 the other day. The tone on the Scarlet is my favorite example of Jerry tone, and I really want to figure out if it was recorded with bucker wolf or single coil wolf. It came from a May 10 show. Thanks for the input.
 #160243  by TI4-1009
 Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:46 am
[urlhttp://www.wald-electronics.com/wolf.html][/url]

Waldo says late 78 at the earliest.
 #160260  by MattMan
 Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:11 pm
Mithrandir wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:10 am
78 is one of my favorite years. Call me a a nihilist or whatever, but 78 had some energy of 77 with some darker undertones. In addition, its my favorite Jerry tone year. I was listening to Dick's Pick's 25 the other day. The tone on the Scarlet is my favorite example of Jerry tone, and I really want to figure out if it was recorded with bucker wolf or single coil wolf. It came from a May 10 show. Thanks for the input.
Search posts by GRATEFULREDHEAD. He's getting some very 78 tone with his custom modded LTD strat I believe.
 #160261  by gratefulredhead
 Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:16 pm
MattMan wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:11 pm
Mithrandir wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:10 am
78 is one of my favorite years. Call me a a nihilist or whatever, but 78 had some energy of 77 with some darker undertones. In addition, its my favorite Jerry tone year. I was listening to Dick's Pick's 25 the other day. The tone on the Scarlet is my favorite example of Jerry tone, and I really want to figure out if it was recorded with bucker wolf or single coil wolf. It came from a May 10 show. Thanks for the input.
Search posts by GRATEFULREDHEAD. He's getting some very 78 tone with his custom modded LTD strat I believe.
Matt, I'm flattered that you would Point our friend in my direction for example of good 78 tone. That is pretty much my favorite era of Jerry's Tone, If I were forced to pick one. I like almost all of them for one reason or another but that's consistently my most favorite. I think what's really been getting me to that place lately is this Aria Pro Guitar that I had Brian at IO guitars customize for me. He did sort of a hybrid late Wolf and Tiger sort of setup. It's got the scale length of Tiger in that it's 25 and 1/2 in, Wolf had a shorter scale I believe 25" like a Paul Reed Smith. But the pickups are humbuckers, the super distortions, I run them split a lot but I also use the humbuckers especially when I'm using the mutron. I can point you to some videos if you'd like just let me know and I'll send you some links. And I'll let you know what my settings are and all the rest of my gear chain if you're interested. Best of luck in your quest for that tone! It's amazing how many great resources there are on this forum people like Matt, Waldo, Brian, the list goes on and on and on.
 #160270  by Mithrandir
 Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:43 am
Searing75 wrote:
Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:45 pm
Wolf had single coils installed for Dicks Picks 25.
thank you for that! i wonder if they were still in for red rocks?
 #160275  by gratefulredhead
 Mon Feb 12, 2018 12:19 pm
hippieguy1954 wrote:
Mon Feb 12, 2018 10:34 am
Wolf scale length is 25.5
Sorry to disagree, but I'm fairly certain that both Waldo and Brian at io have posted on here that it's a 25 inch scale for Wolf.
 #160286  by ac4468
 Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:15 am
If you check the Wolf page on Dozin as well as on the Gurnsey auction site, it appears that in Irwin's own words "The string scale is 25". While I ( and most builders) use 25.5" scale. I think the 25" scale is indeed correct. I used the best flat perspective picture I could find to scale the width of the SDS-1 to the scale length and it is definitely closer to the 25" mark.

Edit: While the scale to me appears to be 25" based on the midpoint, it seems to be intonated with the bridge and saddles so far back that the overall length from nut to saddles is closer to 25.5" I'd love to see a VERY hi-def picture to see what the real deal is!
 #160290  by GeneralGoldilocks
 Tue Feb 13, 2018 10:21 am
Interesting, I personally think scale length has a HUGE impact on tone, and playability for that matter. I would say it matters more than most people think it would. On a related note, you guys have probably seen this guy on you tube, he is a real controversial character, but i kind of like him, even though his videos are about 5 times too long. He does know his stuff, although some of you would be aghast at his claims solid state amps are just as good as tube amps and tone woods make no difference in an electric guitar, i feel he has some good info and solid points in this video about scale length and what not. He really rips the gibson folks a new one, although it seems like he does that all the time. [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WakFMwO9VM&t=435s[url]