Walnut pickup ring...more pics...

Walnut pickup ring...more pics...

Postby tnt1234 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 7:09 pm

Couple of progress pics showing off the walnut/maple/walnut pickup ring. Pretty happy with it so far.

But two issues -
- The bridge seems to be about 1/16" off center. Don't think that will matter much - not much I can do about it - the boat rout won't allow me the adjust the pickup ring, and I already drilled the string through holes.
- I was going to run the fret board long with square edges to cover the less than perfectly tight neck/pocket. But the pickup ring is too tall for that - it's about 1/16" higher than the neck with no fret board. I might try to rout the overlap of the fret board, but might end up being too thin for that to work.

We'll see...

Image

Image
Last edited by tnt1234 on Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:16 am, edited 1 time in total.
tnt1234
Wavy Gravy
Wavy Gravy
 
Posts: 96
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:00 am

Re: Progress - walnut pickup ring...

Postby ac4468 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:19 pm

Looks great! I've encountered a similar issue on an early build. There are two other options I used to solve the neck being a bit low (or more accurately the plate being thick). You can add 1/16" veneer over the neck yet under the fingerboard which looks like a sub binding or add a 1/16" veneer shim in the neck pocket to raise up the neck like on tiger. (assuming the bridge has the range to accommodate the additional height). Really like the tri-lam plate despite it being thick.
ac4468
Terrapin
Terrapin
 
Posts: 151
Joined: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:24 pm
Location: Sandy Hook, CT

Re: Progress - walnut pickup ring...

Postby tnt1234 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:44 pm

That's a great idea....a layer of maple under the rosewood....thanks!
tnt1234
Wavy Gravy
Wavy Gravy
 
Posts: 96
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:00 am

Re: Progress - walnut pickup ring...

Postby ac4468 » Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:55 pm

The only drawback to doing that is that you may have to thin the back of the neck 1/16" so be careful of the truss rod rout! Also, you may be able to get un-notched saddles for the bridge if your alignment is slightly off. This way you can notch them yourself to better center align them.
ac4468
Terrapin
Terrapin
 
Posts: 151
Joined: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:24 pm
Location: Sandy Hook, CT

Re: Progress - walnut pickup ring...

Postby tnt1234 » Thu Nov 16, 2017 6:39 am

ac4468 wrote:The only drawback to doing that is that you may have to thin the back of the neck 1/16" so be careful of the truss rod rout! Also, you may be able to get un-notched saddles for the bridge if your alignment is slightly off. This way you can notch them yourself to better center align them.


Thanks.

The truss rod is a low profile two way, so the channel is only 3/8" deep. Should be fine on that front.

Looking at it again, I think the bridge is set properly - I think my boat rout, and then the wood ring are what are off - so only issue might be the strings going over the poles correctly....and I actually think it's going to work out OK....
tnt1234
Wavy Gravy
Wavy Gravy
 
Posts: 96
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:00 am

Re: Progress - walnut pickup ring...

Postby tnt1234 » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:59 pm

Dang it....I screwed it up....didn't think and stained the pick up ring with a red mahogany-ish stain. the maple sucked it up, and it looks dark - like black dark. So the cool accent is lost...having a hard time sanding it out - it just sucked into that end grain so deeply.

Oh well - live and learn.
tnt1234
Wavy Gravy
Wavy Gravy
 
Posts: 96
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:00 am

Re: Progress - walnut pickup ring...

Postby strumminsix » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:51 am

More than anything, I really like the shape!
User avatar
strumminsix
Senior Member
 
Posts: 6955
Joined: Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:13 am
Location: Chicago

Re: Progress - walnut pickup ring...

Postby lightningbolt » Mon Nov 27, 2017 12:11 pm

strumminsix wrote:More than anything, I really like the shape!



+1
User avatar
lightningbolt
Terrapin
Terrapin
 
Posts: 160
Joined: Thu Feb 02, 2012 1:17 pm

Re: Progress - walnut pickup ring...

Postby gmchart » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:59 pm

If the maple sucked in the stain that deep it was soft maple. I doubt you're gonna be able to sand that out. It's clear from the pics that you have a template, make another and finish it with clear. Let the wood be the wood.
gmchart
Pigpen
Pigpen
 
Posts: 127
Joined: Sat May 26, 2012 1:51 pm
Location: Helena Mt.

Re: Progress - walnut pickup ring...

Postby tnt1234 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 6:58 pm

gmchart wrote:If the maple sucked in the stain that deep it was soft maple. I doubt you're gonna be able to sand that out. It's clear from the pics that you have a template, make another and finish it with clear. Let the wood be the wood.



Yep. Have to get ahold of some more veneer. But it really doesn't look good - no other choice.
tnt1234
Wavy Gravy
Wavy Gravy
 
Posts: 96
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:00 am

Re: Progress - walnut pickup ring...

Postby ac4468 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:32 pm

PM me if you need some. I probably have some maple and walnut thick veneer I can drop in the mail for you.
ac4468
Terrapin
Terrapin
 
Posts: 151
Joined: Fri Dec 13, 2013 5:24 pm
Location: Sandy Hook, CT

Re: Progress - walnut pickup ring...

Postby TI4-1009 » Mon Dec 04, 2017 7:37 pm

tnt1234 wrote:Dang it....I screwed it up....didn't think and stained the pick up ring with a red mahogany-ish stain. the maple sucked it up, and it looks dark - like black dark. So the cool accent is lost...having a hard time sanding it out - it just sucked into that end grain so deeply.

Oh well - live and learn.


If you slightly dampen the exposed endgrain with water before you stain you can sometimes limit how much stain the wood will suck up. Tougher to do in a "sandwich" though.
"Do not write so that you can be understood, write so that you cannot be misunderstood." -Epictetus

First show: 8/16/69 (Woodstock)
Last show: 3/19/95 (Unbroken Chain breakout)
Member of the Four-Decade Club
Charter Member, President & CEO of OAD (Order of the Ancient Deadheads)
User avatar
TI4-1009
Senior Member
 
Posts: 2062
Joined: Fri Aug 20, 2010 6:27 am
Location: Upstate NY- Toodaloo

Re: Progress - walnut pickup ring...

Postby tnt1234 » Fri Dec 08, 2017 1:03 pm

ac4468 wrote:PM me if you need some. I probably have some maple and walnut thick veneer I can drop in the mail for you.



Thanks man, but I just ordered a bunch for a bass I am planning, so I should have some left over for this...
tnt1234
Wavy Gravy
Wavy Gravy
 
Posts: 96
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:00 am

Re: Walnut pickup ring...more pics...

Postby tnt1234 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 10:21 am

So I stained the top - a subtle sunburst with red mahogany and vintage amber - really like it, but not sure it goes with the walnut pick up rig (which is at work right now, so can't snap a pic with it...).

Feel like the pick up right should be metal....don't know where to get it done in metal though. Suggestions?

Image
tnt1234
Wavy Gravy
Wavy Gravy
 
Posts: 96
Joined: Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:00 am

Re: Walnut pickup ring...more pics...

Postby ccw3432 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 1:00 pm

I would go with ebony with an oil finish on the ring for a deep matte look. Cocobolo would look good too with that color body.
User avatar
ccw3432
Skeleton
Skeleton
 
Posts: 333
Joined: Sat Jul 28, 2012 6:11 pm
Location: Three Rivers, CA

Next

Return to Guitar Building and Mods

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest