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Postby lovetoboogie » Thu Feb 11, 2016 7:07 pm

Doing a bit of research for an Ibanez modification for a client...taking a close look at Weir's Cowboy guitar(this being the one he started using on 9/2/78 at Giants Stadium), and among other cool finds in various photography, I see Cowboy is fitted with 3 single coils from 9/2 to at least the Southeast run(photos from 12/16/78 also support this). Anyone care to join in and pontificate as whether these were stacked humbuckers, pure single coils, etc...?

I stumbled upon this guys photos(http://www.billallenphotos.com/1/74c7#/ ... ingham-al/) from December 78' in Alabama and Nashville gigs which among other things show some fantastic shots of Garcia on the weird Travis Bean Artist that gets little attention compared to the 75'-77' Beans. Also some great shots of Phil and Keiths rig from the Nashville show. Phil using a stack of Alembic F2-B's and Keith using some beat to shit Twin Reverb heads. Also interesting to see Weir back on the Boogie Mark I head after dabbling with the Peavey at Giants Stadium, Egypt and Winterland....


Weir with the single coil loaded Ibanez, Winterland, 10/78;

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Re: Fall 78' Gear...

Postby mkaufman » Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:10 pm

I'll add this: Weir had (2) Cowboys that looked like this. This one (call this #1) had the Ibanez Gibraltar bridge with cloud tailpiece. His other one (call this #2) had the accucast bridge, and was used as a model for the "reissue" that Ibanez made 30 of and sold in 2005.

Based on pictures, #1 was played in 1978, and I wonder if it was used on Shakedown Street.

I'm still trying to determine when Weir broke out #2.

See below for an interesting pic of #2. It appears to have (2) single coils in the bridge, or (I'm speculating here), one single coil and a dummy coil to buck the him. Did he have (4) pickups???

A bunch of us have been racking our brains trying to determine what pickups he used in his Ibanez guitars. One issue is that he was constantly changing pickups.

Your research is greatly appreciated. Keep posting your findings and I'll help if I can.

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Re: Fall 78' Gear...

Postby Dozin » Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:51 pm

I'm saying this guitar had 4 single coils. 2 singles in the Bridge. Looks like the same pickup as the middle pup.

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Re: Fall 78' Gear...

Postby mkaufman » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:12 am

I think you mean (4) pickups, three of which were single coils plus one humbucker.

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Re: Fall 78' Gear...

Postby Dozin » Fri Feb 12, 2016 7:09 am

Actually I meant the first pic. The one with the single coil in the neck.
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Re: Fall 78' Gear...

Postby mkaufman » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:57 am

Got it! Would be nice to have a better unobstructed view.

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Re: Fall 78' Gear...

Postby Dozin » Thu Feb 18, 2016 2:58 pm

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Re: Fall 78' Gear...

Postby waldo041 » Thu Feb 18, 2016 3:45 pm

Dozin wrote:Image
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That is the first one from 77, no?

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Re: Fall 78' Gear...

Postby mkaufman » Thu Feb 18, 2016 4:02 pm

It was played many times in '76, '77 and '78.

So far, the the earliest picture I have of this guitar is from 10/3/76 and the latest show is 4/28/78 (the Duke video show). I'm still researching.

If you look at that 9/3/77 Englishtown picture, you'll notice that is does not yet have the EQ. The EQ was installed afterwards.

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Re: Fall 78' Gear...

Postby tigerstrat » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:07 am

I think the stack 'o' Twin heads at Nashville, Dec. 78 may be part of Phil's "B" rig, for use with the Starfire, with the F2B's in the "A" rig, specific to Mission Control. Perhaps he was switching basses for specific songs for awhile and didn't want to alter settings each time?
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Re: Fall 78' Gear...

Postby tigerstrat » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:07 am

I think the stack 'o' Twin heads at Nashville, Dec. 78 may be part of Phil's "B" rig, for use with the Starfire, with the F2B's in the "A" rig, specific to Mission Control. Perhaps he was switching basses for specific songs for awhile and didn't want to alter settings each time?
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Re: Fall 78' Gear...

Postby mkaufman » Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:35 am

Can you please provide a link to that pic?

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Re: Fall 78' Gear...

Postby lovetoboogie » Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:13 am

tigerstrat wrote:I think the stack 'o' Twin heads at Nashville, Dec. 78 may be part of Phil's "B" rig, for use with the Starfire, with the F2B's in the "A" rig, specific to Mission Control. Perhaps he was switching basses for specific songs for awhile and didn't want to alter settings each time?


I believe you are correct...I see Keith's rig is on the other side of the stage. It looks as if both of Phil's cables(for mission control and big brown) are going into both sides of one of the F2-B's. There is one cable into one of the Twin heads that kind of trails off in the other direction...

Nonetheless, there are 3 Twin heads chopped into a Garcia like cab. First time I have seen that on stage in the many photos we look at. Cool, right?
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Re: Fall 78' Gear...

Postby tigerstrat » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:20 pm

mkaufman wrote:Can you please provide a link to that pic?

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Sorry about that, it takes a bit of navigation from the OP's link, and it won't allow direct linkage to the image but it' the 1st and 2nd images in this gallery: http://www.billallenphotos.com/1/74c7#/gallery/grateful-dead-12-16-1978-municipal-auditorium-nashville-tn/gd19781216-1-02/
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Re: Fall 78' Gear...

Postby tigerstrat » Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:22 pm

lovetoboogie wrote:
tigerstrat wrote:I think the stack 'o' Twin heads at Nashville, Dec. 78 may be part of Phil's "B" rig, for use with the Starfire, with the F2B's in the "A" rig, specific to Mission Control. Perhaps he was switching basses for specific songs for awhile and didn't want to alter settings each time?


I believe you are correct...I see Keith's rig is on the other side of the stage. It looks as if both of Phil's cables(for mission control and big brown) are going into both sides of one of the F2-B's. There is one cable into one of the Twin heads that kind of trails off in the other direction...

Nonetheless, there are 3 Twin heads chopped into a Garcia like cab. First time I have seen that on stage in the many photos we look at. Cool, right?


I might be wrong but looks like the basses' output cables both go into two sides of the silver (switching?) 2-space rack unit: yellow from Mission on the left and black from Big Brown on the right.
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